Canadian Health Care?

Alright, So What Do Americans Think Of Our Canadian Health Care?

It’s Been In The Talks & News Recently That You Guys Might Be Getting A Health Care Similar To Ours.

From My Point Of View, Canadian Health Care Is Excellent. You Can Go To The Doctors Without Worrying About How Much It Just Cost You. You Have Better Health Because You’re Not Scared Of Going To The Doctors Because Of The Bills.

Hospitals Are A Little Bit Of A Pain. You Can Wait Between 3-8 Hours Before You See A Doctor. But In The End, You Receive Medical Attention.

What Do You Guys Want?

s CNN reported, McConnell recently made a speech to the Senate referring to the "bureaucrats who run Canada's health care system" and using the Kingston General Hospital as an example of the horror of Canada's health care. KGH supposedly had waits of 340 days for knee replacement and 196 days for hip replacement. McConnell also fussed that Ontario's wait time for breast cancer surgery is three months. CNN did interview Dr. David Zelt, KGH's chief of staff, who pointed out the wait times are actually 91 days for hip replacement, 109 days for knees, and that these aren't the average wait times, but the time that nine out of 10 people have had the procedure. Many have them done much faster. For breast cancer surgery, the wait time at KGH is 23 days, across Ontario it's 34 days.

This Article Was In The Ottawa Citizen This Morning
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/reality+check+reality+check/1783177/story.html

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Sound like Candinadian's like to wait alot. 3-8 hrs just to see a doctor? hopefully it's not an emergency!

That's at the hospital. If it's an emergency you don't wait. Kids and bleeding patients don't wait though.

0h and please note the Kingston Hospital ain't that big.. and they obviously took a bad exemple for a hospital.

My bad.

Wasn't trying to be mean or anything, was just stating.. sorry.

when I was in college I had to do research for the socialist health care system......

1. - its unamerican

2. - people have to wait up to 6 months for heart surgery when you can get it done next day in america, the canadian goivernment tries to identify emergency cases and make them a priority, oh well if you die in the mean time

3. - many can. come to america to get surgeries, there is a reason

4. - ask janie what they pay in taxes to support that system (and remember that canada is not nearly as populated as america) isnt it like 50% taxes janie?

5. - sure drugs are expensive, but without the reward for inventing the thing why do it? that is why most drug related and other techniques are invented in america its called incentive

6. - you cant sue the government

7. - I chew snuff, I get cancer, why the hell should you have to pay for it? all these obese americans are going to really f*ck our taxes

8. - goverment will tell you which doctor, when and where you will see and what procedure you will get if you are able.

9. - america was founded on capitalism, rejected socialism and we have flourished until taxes started going through the roof, this will kill our people, kill our economy and kill what little we have left of freedom to choose for our health......I go to a hospital that accepts 20 dollars a month no matter how much you owe....

10 - 1,000 government control is bad because.......

also, the way the bill is currently set up is absolutely going to wreak havoc on the health care system, even dems wont support it because its ludi.

there are many places to improve costs of health care that would be available to address, but washington doesnt seem to want to do that.

Janie007 wrote:

[color=red]that these aren't the average wait times, but the time that nine out of 10 people have had the procedure..

This Article Was In The Ottawa Citizen This Morning
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/reality+check+reality+check/1783177/story.html

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hahahahahaha yea only 90% of the times.......I have a guy got hip done when he wanted, where he wanted and by the doctor he wanted 60 days later he is going to have his knee done, only waiting so the muscles around his hip are stroong enough, I work as a PT social medicine = bad idea LMAO

Well Said Thuder.

Thing is, Exemple, My dad had really bad heart problems a few years back, his wait for a doctor was about 3 months. But! They always refer you to a doctor that has a less waiting period. That's the good part.

If it's that much of an emergency, they'll know where to direct you. But for people that don't have alot of money, when you need a surgury or anything, in US, you gotta pay for it right? Something like 60% of Americans don't have a health care plan I think I saw..

So would you rather be broke, get your surgury done now... or if you can wait 3 months for it, and get it done without paying anything?.. I guess it all depends on the situation.

Another exemple, I had a tumor, It wasn't anything that if they removed it in 1 month, it will be as better as I waited 6 months for it.. So I had to wait a few months for it because it wasn't really life threatning yet.

thuder87 wrote:

when I was in college I had to do research for the socialist health care system......

1. - its unamerican

Touch one to figure out

Waiting 8 hours to see a Doctor PMSL

Just sew it up yourself !

Janie007 wrote:

So would you rather be broke, get your surgury done now... or if you can wait 3 months for it, and get it done without paying anything?.. I guess it all depends on the situation.

First, I am american, so now.....

second.....not free for people who work TAXES...

american system would tax you if you get your healthcare through your work, tax your work for providing it (so they actually would not want to provide it), if you didnt have it through work they will make you pay a certain percentage based on your income anyway, and then when people could not pay the rest, they will tax something else to make up for it, or just run a deficit, ya america!


even retired people have to pay for medicare outta their basically non-exsistent social security....

I am capitolist through and through, get a job and get coverage...people need to stop this feeling of entitlement.

Janie007 wrote:

So would you rather be broke, get your surgury done now... or if you can wait 3 months for it, and get it done without paying anything?.. I guess it all depends on the situation.

It does depend on the situation obviously, but in 3 months time you might be broke anyway if you're health problems are so bad that you re forced to try and live off hand-outs from the state because you can't work.

And the Canadian logic in your first post, I think Thuder picked up on it...

"9 out of 10 people wait 100+ days for a knee op, but MANY people have it done much faster."

LOL

How MANY more people are there left out of 10 after the first 9 have waited 100+ days ?

D'oh !!

Janie007 wrote:

Another exemple, I had a tumor, It wasn't anything that if they removed it in 1 month, it will be as better as I waited 6 months for it.. So I had to wait a few months for it because it wasn't really life threatning yet.

Also, this is medicinal madness, cancers and melanoma's and whatever fuck else you associate can spread like WILDFIRE if not treated.

You're health system sounds very similar to ours mate, but there's no way i'm waiting around for 6 months if I have a fucking tumour in me, taking the very obvious risks that it might spread, get worse, debilitate me, kill me, whatever. Fair enough, it's not 'life threatening' according to your doctor, but doctor's are not infallable, especially when it comes to cancer, because basically they haven't got a fucking clue.

Take Sir Bobby Robson, footballing legend here in Europe, died this week from a long battle with cancer. Actually, he's had 6 seperate diagnosis' of cancer over the last 18 years or so, and despite everyone's best efforts, it got him in the end. There's no cure for cancer, sometimes you'll get lucky. But taking a chance with it is crazy. Sorry, but it is. I'm ranting now. Apologies

Hey, you're still here so that's cool.

And I get private health care paid for by my employer, so it looks like you're stuck with me for the foreseeable future too